The Sabrina Limon murder trial continues: day 7

Posted at 10:39 AM, Sep 19, 2017
and last updated 2017-09-19 21:58:42-04

Day 7 of the Sabrina Limon resumes on Tuesday.


(UPDATE 4:31 p.m.):

Hearn is asked about web searches that he made. He searched for the homepage of Cyber Genetics on Nov. 13, 2014 around 1:45 p.m.

4:06 p.m.: Hearn said he called Sabrina to ask how the interview [with Det. Meyer] went. He asked to meet up with her later, when asked why, Hearn said he couldn’t recall.

4:08 p.m.: Phone call between Jonathan and Sabrina plays. They chat about things like dinner and her kids are overheard. Then they talk about the case. “So obviously DNA is a good thing” Sabrina said.  

4:15 p.m.: “I’m not a scientist, in fact I’m not a lot of things” Sabrina tells Jonathan. She tells him about all of the leads detectives were looking into and how “emotional” it was going in for questioning. Sabrina tells Jonathan what she told Det. Meyer during questioning, that she just wants to keep her focus, on her kids. She tells Jonathan that they’ll be fine and that “God is so good.”

4:24 p.m. Phone call ends and Jonathan is questioned about meeting Sabrina in Apple Valley later that evening for dinner. Jonathan said it’s a “pretty central location between their two homes.” They met in the area several times before. Jonathan said Sabrina gave him the full details on the meeting with Det. Meyer. They both felt like their previous paranoia “had been just that” and that they felt safe now. He said the dinner wasn’t quite celebratory but there was a feeling of relief. Case ends for the day and will pick back up tomorrow.


(UPDATE 4:07 p.m.) 3:33 p.m.: Sabrina recalls the last moments she had with Robert and the moments after his death. Sabrina recalls how Robert’s death felt “unreal.” “I’ve had so many friends that have been helping me. And I’m so grateful.”

3:43 p.m.: Sabrina tells Det. Meyer her kids were doing well after their father’s death and were in counseling. She says she can’t be distracted by anything else but her kids. “I feel my purpose and responsibility and taking care of my kids.”

Det. Meyer tells Sabrina they want to help her family out with counseling. Sabrina asks Det. Meyer if they’ve caught anybody and he tells her that every person they’ve spoken to turned out to not be involved. “So are these bad guys?” she asks.

Det. Meyer tells Sabrina “I’ve been working on it.” They want more tips to get the case solved.

"So you obviously don’t have anybody?” she asks. She said she wants to call Det. Meyer “like everyday” about if they caught anybody.

Questioning concluded and surveillance video ends.

3:54 p.m.: Phone call between Jonathan and Sabrina plays from Nov. 13, 2014. Jonathan tells her that “a bunch of people are praying for her.” She says she’s with her sister and that they were “talking about him.”

Sabrina tells Jonathan about her meeting with Det. Meyer about their leads they had. She says a lot turned out to just “be tweakers.”

Sabrina tells Jonathan about a new “high-tech” DNA detection that made Sabrina “hopeful” [a suspect will be caught].

“I wonder whose sweat dropped” Jonathan said.

4:03 p.m.: Hearn is questioned about phone call that is played. He said he recalls looking up a couple things about DNA.

(UPDATE SEPT. 19 2:50 p.m.)  2:21 p.m. call from Nov. 13, 2014 is played.

Hearn wasn’t concerned about the discover of the burner phone because it fit in with the original alibi of the affair.

Hearn started taking performance enhancing drugs to “bulk up” in late 2013 because Sabrina expressed interest in muscular body types.

2:37 p.m: Surveillance video of Sabrina being questioned by detectives. Detectives said they had followed close to 100 leads in the case, but DNA found at the scene lead them to believe it could be a big break. Detectives said they found two sweat drops at the crime scene and they got DNA samples from every BNSF employee to rule them out.

2:47 p.m.: Detective tells Sabrina this is probably her last interview unless something else comes up. He asks her when she first met Robert, she says they met when she was 18.

UPDATE (SEPT. 19 2:20 p.m.) 1:30 p.m.: The trial resumes following a lunch recess with Hearn still on the stand. The courtroom continues to listen to the phone call from Nov. 12.

The couple is praying more and comforting each other during this call.

Hearn is questioned about leaving Limon's house around 7 p.m. on Nov. 12. He said he didn't remember what time he left that day.

2:05 p.m.: Hearn is questioned about why he talked to Limon about money. He said he wanted to invest in a house he was planning to build on his property. They had discussed selling her house so that they could get money to do that quickly, as opposed to make “mature wise investments.” 

“Do you think that God is guiding our timeline right now for sure?” Limon said on the phone. Hearn is asked about the “timeline.” He mentions one is the timeline of their relationship and the other was about the house.

The call was made from a different phone that Limon was going to keep in her car. Hearn called it a “burner phone.” The burner phone would potentially solidify their initial alibi that they were trying to hide an affair, not a murder.

A text message is read out loud by Hearn-- “hey baby: you have a pw locking this phone right? In case [one of the kids or family member] found it?”— Hearn sent that to her burner phone.

Hearn is questioned about performance enhancing drugs and admits he was selling these to “very few clients.” He admits to using performance enhancing drugs to “bulk up” and for “cardio purposes.”

Hearn is asked "how did your relationship with Sabrina" make you take steroids? He said it was after a conversation with her.


UPDATE (SEPT. 19 12:00 p.m.) A long conversation from between Hearn and Limon is played.

They discussed everyday things, one of them being that her kids were asking Limon who Hearn was to her.

"They want to find out who you are, who you are to me," Limon said.

Court goes to lunch recess.


UPDATE (SEPT. 19 11:21 a.m.) 11:00 a.m.: Hearn is questioned about another call from Nov. 11, 2014. The call was made from an Internet number. Limon and Hearn discuss whose phone may be wire tapped during this call.

Hearn thought he could say he was “going home” over his “normal” phone and go elsewhere. “I was gona kinda try to see if they’re listening to my phone”—“How can you tell if the phones are [wire tapped],” Limon said.

Hearn is questioned about his phone conversation with Limon  in reference to their plans to avoid being listened to and said they only discussed the faint beeps Limon heard from time to time on the phone. Hearn admits he thought he was going to be arrested that day.


UPDATE (SEPT. 19 10:22 a.m.): 9:39 a.m. A call from Nov. 11, 2014 is played. “I didn’t know how I was gonna get by without Rob,” Limon said to Hearn, “he was my everything.”

Limon and Hearn continue to discuss the developments of the investigation and Limon sounds shaken up. Hearn and Limon discuss their deep trust and commitment to one another following the murder of Robert.

10:19 a.m.: Another call from Nov. 11, 2014 is played. Hearn tells Limon that he will come see her later because he notices a truck may be watching her.

"I don't know if we're getting paranoid... ya know?" Sabrina said.

Hearn doesn't want to come over because of the red Titan he sees by Limon. She tells him he "is not committing a crime by coming over."

Court goes on 15min. recess.


Day 7 resumes with Jonathan Hearn back on the stand. A call from Nov. 11, 2014 is played between Sabrina Limon and Hearn.

Hearn tells Sabrina that he believes God is on their side. “This is the ultimate game of trust,” Hearn said. “We have to live for him.”

Limon thanks Hearn for helping her through this situation and they pray together. Hearn made this call during work, he is questioned about what he was planning on doing after work. Hearn said he was going to go visit with Limon.

Hearn is questioned about a statement he made -- “you saved all of these people” referring to rapists and other criminals. He answered that there is some grace given to those people by God who commit these terrible crimes after repenting.

“Seeking his forgiveness was something that was very important at that time,” Hearn said. --“What is the context of grace?” He’s asked. Hearn answers that there was “some sort of remaining hope that God would not be true to his nature” and they would get away with Robert’s murder.